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FlagGazer

Why is this less of a crime than pretending to be a lawyer or an architect or an engineer or a doctor -- anything that you have to EARN? People who pretend to be some professions are charged with crimes if they benefit from it - I don't see this as any different.

I would like to know why people are so reticent to charge fraudsters with crimes.

John Hampton

After reading the articles about these guys and totally "getting it" regarding what those guys did, I can't understand why so many of the other readers who left comments still don't get it. In fact, upon reading Mr. Turley's complete article, I'm not sure that he gets it either.

The guy who was posing as a military chaplain was performing weddings and funerals! The other guy's intent was to commit monetary fraud. There's a big difference between those sorts of things and a professional (or unprofessional) actor on a stage, or someone at a halloween costume party.

The costume party thing is kind of intriguing to think about, though. I don't have any problems with someone dressing up in fun as SGT Rock of Easy Company or Rambo. I would really have to wonder, though, about someone who attended a costume party with a complete and authentic military dress uniform, posing as a decorated NCO or commissioned officer. Hmmm...he might not be able to gain anything monetarily, but I bet he'd pick up a good-looking babe before the night was over.

There shouldn't be any question in cases involving fraudulent representation for the purpose of monetary gain that it is a crime.

Scott

It's all said and done by you, VW, and your other posters: posing for monetary or social gain should be a punishable criminal behavior. A costume is one thing, but anything beyond that is fraud, and should be treated as such.

Bloviating Zeppelin

I'm with Scott; if it's utilized in order to acquire a level of service, trust, accommodation, benefit (monetary or otherwise) above the norm -- then yes, it should be a crime. Displaying medals to make others think you're a big shot only. . .not so much.

I would submit it revolves around a fidiciary or benefits fraud.

BZ

BobF

Excellent post.

Don’t know if VW remembers the case of CMSgt Spenser Dukes who claimed to be Battan Death March survivor and former POW during WWII. Chief Dukes was a featured speaker at enlisted Professional Military Education banquets and Enlisted Dining-In’s all over the United States. He spoke at Malamstrom AFB while I was there and his story would literally bring tears to your eyes. Stories had been written about him in the Air Force Sergeants magazine and the First Sergeant of the Year award was about to be named after him. Chief Dukes also had a very powerful supporter, Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force David Campanlae, who ridiculed other Death March survivors who tried to expose Chief Dukes.

Chief Dukes was eventually exposed for the fraud he was. This man had the senior Air Force leadership fooled. Nobody at that level bothered to look into his records; they just took him at his word. If this man, who was wined and dined at Air Force expense all over the United States cold fool the Senior Leadership, just think what someone could possibly get out of a civilian or local veterans organization.

http://www.us-japandialogueonpows.org/Stolen%20Valor.htm

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