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Bloviating Zeppelin

So, who showed up that night?

1. Stern Obama
2. I Know Better Than You Obama
3. It's All About ME Obama
4. Pissed and Threatened Obama

Actually, all four.

BZ

Glenn Cassel

I just watch Greta do the hi-lights or in the case of BHO, the low-lights. The schmuck couldn't figure out up from down if it had monetary value. And the SecHomeLandSec out cold was a laugher, not to mention the dirty old man from Nevada doing touch and goes with his chin. The magic orator/negro has lost his Ivy League touch and his popularity. The campaign is over BO, act like the CinC or call it quits and take dumbass joe biden, nancy'Boozer" pelosi, and dirty harry reid with you.

rusty

Part of the reason they don't believe him is that Republican pundits go on Fox and lie about what he said and the "Fair and Balanced" folks don't call him on it:

http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/video/giuliani-vs-obama-the-sotu-terrorism-speech-that-wasn/

And it's not just Obama they don't trust, they don't trust anyone:

"It’s important to note that the deficit of trust applies to all politicians, not just President Obama. “Americans are united in the belief that our political system is broken, that politicians are corrupt, and that neither major political party has the answers,” according to Scott Rasmussen in his new book, In Search of Self-Governance,

Seventy-five percent (75%) of Republican voters say their party’s representatives are out of touch with the party’s base. "

When 75% of your party thinks you're out of touch maybe it's time to stop saying no to everything (including your own ideas) just to make the other guy look bad.

http://www.drudge.com/news/129596/senate-repubs-vote-against-own-proposal

John Hampton

Rusty, those results are very interesting and probably fairly accurate. This is not a surprising revelation for conservatives, nor should it be for liberals. Still, it should serve as an epiphany for the typical politicians on both sides.

Those poll results do suggest that liberal Democrats are more willing to just fall in line and continue voting for their party regardless of conscience or common sense while conservative Republicans have begun paying more attention to what's going on and becoming more demanding of their representives.

More conservatives are now less willing to complacently go along with run-of-the mill politicians who lose touch with their grass roots once they arrive in Washington. Politicians are now beginning to learn that they cannot just ignore and patronize their constitutuents. More and more of them are voicing their discontent. The writing is on the wall.

The politicians have to realize by now, that the voters will find leaders who will represent them. It's in the air. It's become a movement and it's spreading. The Democratic Party and their high priests fear this as much, if not more, than the Republicans do. The anxiety experienced by the Democrat hard core elitists and liberal progressives as they contemplate their prospects for continued political success in the weeks and months ahead is written all over their faces. They know their time is short.

The conservatives will restore balance of power in November. But our work will not be finished then.

Sounds ominous, doesn't it?

Violence Worker

Rusty, I'd rather it be the "Party of No" than the "Party of yes to Democrats. The truth is, there are a number of Republican measures that would offer meaningful healthcare reform. The Democrats have ignored them making them the real "Party of No".

What amuses me is that you think Fox News is so influential. I might add that I spend precious little time watching TV or listening to talk radio. The only time I listen to talk radio is the 15 minutes it takes me to get to work and the 15 minutes it takes me to get home. I usually listen to classical music when I drive on the weekends.

My guess is that Fox spews way less propaganda than MSNBC.

VW

rusty

John,

A bit ominous, yes. However, I disagree with you about Dems willing to compromise and being in lock step. If the latter were true the health care bill would have passed a long time ago. After all there are 60 Dems and it was the disagreement between them that kept it from passing. And, just the fact that they dropped the public option should prove that they are willing to compromise. I watched John Boehner on a number of talk shows this Sunday. Essentially he said "We'll work with Obama as long as it's our ideas he's talking about." He couldn't name a single thing the Dems want that he'd be willing to go along with, but at the same time couldn't understand why the Prez hadn't fully embraced all of the Republican ideas. He seems to forget who won the last election.

VW - First, it's not just Fox News, but they are the #1 news network. And I'd say Fox and MSNBC are about equal in propaganda spewing, but in the category of out and out misinformation, Fox is the #1 network for that too.

And as I pointed out, you're saying "no" to your own ideas! I can understand you saying know to any "liberal" ideas, but "no" to ideas like "pay as you go"???? Seriously, you're becoming the Grand Opposition Party.

John Hampton

Rusty, I stand by my remarks. I read the report. It addresses opinions of the voters or constituents of the respective parties. It did not have anything to do with the opinions of the representatives or why they voted one way or the other on that particular piece of legislation.

On the question of why the Republicans were lock-step in opposition to Pay-Go spending - well, that may not be as simple as it appears but it's not too hard to figure out. Yes, we've heard all about how it was a Republican concept before now. But, as we also know, Republicans have not always been in favor it. But that was before. And this one wasn't a Republican idea. This was Democratic Senator "Light-Skin" Harry's amendment. He offered up a bone in the spirit of bi-partisanship. Yeah, bi-partisan government seems to be the new fad with Democrats now for some reason. I wonder why? You would have to be a fool to believe that this was not some Democratic political chicanery designed to provide a statutory gimmick which would facilitate tax-and-spend policies. There's no doubt it would set the stage for higher taxes being trumpeted as the only way to avoid cutting entitlement spending.

Why would the Republicans want to go along with furnishing the Democrats a fig leaf with which to cover themselves. After all, especially when taking into consideration the results of that Rasmussen Poll, don't you think those Republicans want to keep their jobs?

rusty

Ok, so to be clear, you're going to find some paranoid reason to justify anything the dems bring forward. I mean Rebups are voting againgst bills they sponsored! They're not attempting to govern, they're trying their best to do the opposite.

John Hampton

Not paranoid, Rusty, just prudent. But getting back to the significance of that Rasmussen Poll you were touting - I'm just saying that it strikes me as ironic that those who call themselves "liberals" and who fancy themselves as intellectually dynamic free-thinkers and freedom fighters are such servile rank-in-file conformists who lack the gumption and intestinal fortitude to challenge or question their own leaders. It's a political paradox.

Violence Worker

Rusty, Tell me, how does a minority party govern? They don't. When the GOP was running the place, the Dems did everything they could to thwart them and now, the GOP is doing the same. It's the nature of the political game.

VW

John Hampton

I pretty much got the picture of how they intended to govern and what their thoughts were on bi-partisanship when, just a couple of months after Obama took office, they published their unclassified DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis report which targeted conservatives as potentially dangerous terrorists.

John Hampton

...and you accuse me, Rusty, of having paranoid reasons for my distrust of them.

John Hampton

What's next? Will Obama issue an executive order later this year declaring a national emergency and suspending all elections in November because the polls show that Congress is in imminent danger of being taken over by conservatives?

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