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BobF

All someone has to do is read the court testimony of the 13 year old girl to want this SOB to be locked up for life. Those that support this scum are nothing but the products of inferior breeding themselves.

Rusty

Liberal mindset?? How do you get that? I know plenty of liberals and not one of them think he should be free. It's us liberal who for years and years have pushed for tougher laws to protect children and have gotten nothing but push back from conservatives. Please stop assigning any action you don't care for as a "liberal mindset".

Violence Worker

List the Conservatives demanding his release and I'll list the Liberals. We'll compare lists and see whose is longer.

VW

BloodyTomMorgan

So this guy holds dual Polish and Frnech citizenship. Why did we have to get him from the Swiss? Isn't it illegal to drug and rape a child in those countries? IMO France has some serious explaining to do or the state department needs to issue a warning about the dangers of children travelling in France. It seems they don't give two euros if a child is raped. Pedophile on the loose? Doesn't matter, he's famous.

Rusty, the liberal mindset is a victim's mindset. The victim want's the case dropped so the that's what should happen. Our justice system isn't built around the victim deciding the punishment or lack theroff. Even then, I think VW is being uneccessarily harsh as there is a very small percentage of people that think he should go free (one poll indicated around 10% I think.) While it is a liberal mindset, its an extreme one in this case.

There is also the European mindset (mostly Polish and French apparently) that some rules do not apply to the higher classes. One fellow director was appaled to learn that poor Polanski was being treated as a "COMMON criminal" (emphasis miine). Which is a better treatment than he deserves.

rusty_american

In 2005, Jamie Leigh Jones was gang-raped by her co-workers while she was working for Halliburton/KBR in Baghdad. She was detained in a shipping container for at least 24 hours without food, water, or a bed, and “warned her that if she left Iraq for medical treatment, she’d be out of a job.” (Jones was not an isolated case.) Jones was prevented from bringing charges in court against KBR because her employment contract stipulated that sexual assault allegations would only be heard in private arbitration.

Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) proposed an amendment to the 2010 Defense Appropriations bill that would withhold defense contracts from companies like KBR “if they restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.”

His amendment passed by a 68-30 vote

Can you guess which party the 30 "no" votes came from? Which party see no problem with companies getting government contracts even if they make it ok to rape a women in their employment? So I guess it fair to say that the Republican mindset says it's ok to rape someone as long as you're making a profit.

Violence Worker

Your being dishonest Rusty. I don't know the specifics of the case you cited, but we were talking about the Polanski case and child rape. Don't change the subject. Nice Try. I can cite you several cases here in WA where tough penalties for sexual crimes were either defeated or watered down by the Democrat controlled Legislature.

I specifically mention Polanski's case where liberals were excusing his evil deeds. Nobody else's.

Try and stay on task, 'kay?

VW

Rusty

I know you don't read what I write, but do you even read what you write?

If you had stuck to the Polanski case I would have too. If you had said the people defending Polanski were idiots i would have agreed 100%. But you had to go the extra step and bring in all liberals and that's why I jumped in.

You were saying that it's a "liberal mindset" to excuse bad behavior because someone is famous. I'm defending liberals, not Polanski or his defenders. And I'm saying if you can paint liberals with such broad strokes I can do the same with conservatives. You can rape someone if you make a profit is a conservative mindset. There, I did it.

Yes, the main defender of Polanski is Harvey Weinstein and he's a liberal. But Harvey is doing it because he has a financial interest in Polanski - so in that respect he's being very conservative.

Violence Worker

Rusty, With that last sentence, you have about pushed my patience. The people defending Polanskiare liberals. That was my point. Not Conservatives and I know of know one that is a Conservative that would approve of rape of any kind.

I stated a fact. You are stating conjecture. Now maybe not all liberals defended him (I know a few that didn't), but all that did are. That was my point.

You must be an idiot if you think all conservatives approve of such behavior and if that pisses you off...c'est la vie.!

VW

BobF

So, having a financial interest in Polanski is Conservative? How so, since there are just as many, if not more, Liberals who are wealthy?

The difference between a Conservative and Liberal millionaire is this. Conservatives believe what they make is theirs to keep. Liberals believe what they make is theirs to keep but what everyone else makes belongs to the government.

Rusty

VW

You stated "the liberal mindset that says because he is allegedly this great artist, his dalliances with 13-year-olds is somehow justified. How sick is that?" That's a fact? it's not you're opinion? You know for a fact that liberals believe that. It's not possible that we're just talking about a few people here who are wrongly supporting him and who happen to be liberal? I know plenty of liberals and they're all disgusted with him and think he should rot in jail. So, no, you're not dealing with facts any more than I am when I say it's a conservative mindset that allows companies to let their employees get away with rape. I can point to 30 elected Republicans who seem to think that way. Does that mean they all do?

I mean, Republicans were quick to de-fund ACORN when they found out that some employees were involved with helping supposed prostitutes get loans. Yet, these same Republicans don't see any reason to de-fund KBR after they find out that their employees are raping and kidnapping people. You don't see any hypocrisy there?

Look, you're right to say that the people supporting Polanski are mostly liberals, but you're wrong to paint all liberals with a broad brush. Most of us disagree with those liberals and anyone else who supports what this guy did.

Violence Worker

I went and read up on the KBR story. There is a world of difference between these two incidents. Apples and oranges. With the KBR story, there are a lot of holes in the gals story. There are also holes in KBR's official story. I doubt that KBR's corporate policy was to allow that sort of behavior if it happened.

The opposing view is that they essentially turned a criminal complaint into a civil complaint. That is the point there. I don't agree totally, but I can see the point.

This is about a case that is settle. Polanski is guilty and it is liberals demanding he be let go.

There is another celebrated case. Teddy and Chappaquiddick. Didja ever hear anyone from the left condemn him? He should have resigned in disgrace way back when. Now he dies and he's the "liberal lion". Guess killing someone is OK too as long as you are a liberal. You can have an underage boyfriend when you are in Congress (Gerry Studds) as long as you are a liberal.

VW

Rusty

Uhm, Gerry wasn't alone, remember (of course you don't)? Gerry and Dan Crane (R-Il) were both accused of having sex with pages (of legal age). Both were censured and both stay in congress after that. Crane just lost his re-election bid, but his fellow Repubs didn't kick him out.

Yeah, it's funny how we forgive people of their sins over time. Look at that liberal Thomas Jefferson. Rapes a 13 year old slave and we liberals build a monument to him. I know you guys on the right hate him.

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