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Rusty

I know how you feel. It's how I feel when people say the way to stop gun violence is with more guns. Or when Fuhrer President Bush said we needed more oil to overcome our addition to oil. Or when Vice Fuhrer Cheney said that we would be greeted by liberators by people we were going to bomb the snot out of. There ain't no logic in it.

Reaganite Republican

Joey Pluggs is a dangerous fool.

And since Biden has been consistently on the wrong side of history over the last 30 years… his DNC-vaunted foreign policy “experience” has little value… this aparatchik doesn’t appear to have learned a thing.

He opposed every step of Reagan’s defense buildup that won the cold war, and later proposed surrender and 3-way partition in Iraq. He frequently appears to have no idea what he’s talking about, but this has little effect on the quantity of output from this mother-of-all-loose-cannons. Biden really shouldn’t be let out the door unless chained to a TelePromTer.

What a schlameel

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Violence Worker

Rusty, Bush is gone. He's not in office any more. I know, you are shocked, but what we elected is a whole lot worse. This should outrage every American, but then, you really aren't an American, are you. You are one who really hopes that America fails as a nation.

VW

Rusty

Hey, I was just saying I could relate to how you feel.

And really, that's all you have? I'm not really an American? When I disagreed with the president and you agreed with him, I was the anti-american who didn't want the president to succeed. Now that the roles are reversed, some how the labels haven't. It's sad that the best you can do when someone disagrees with you is to call them names. Ok, I can live with that.

For the record though, I love this country, love it's people, love it's history, love everything about it and would defend it with my life. It's the best country in the world.

Violence Worker

Well, then, other than your protestations, all I hear is Bush, Bush and more Bush. If you gave a damn about this country, you'd be screaming as load as I am about the mess Obama is getting us into.

Newsflash - I don't care about Bush - HE"S GONE!!!!! I care about the unsustainable debt load Obama and the Democrats are trying to force down our throats. When you denounce that, I'll reconsider my remarks.

VW

Rusty

So, if I don't agree with you that the Obama policies are going to hurt us, then I'm not really American? So, anyone who disagrees with you is non American. Do you get the concept of America at all? Do you understand that this is a country that is all about being able to disagree with each other?

Yes, Bush is gone. And I only bring him up because I think you're being hypocritical. Bush added trillions to the debt. He nominated supreme court justices that were "empathetic", and all with your blessing or at least silence. OK, you don't see it as being hypocritical. You can justify what Bush did. I get that. You disagree with me. I think you're wrong. But I don't think for a minute that because you're wrong mean you hate America or it makes you unamerican. Why do you think that of me? I really don't think you get this country.

Violence Worker

Empathy is one thing and racist is another, but you obviously do not have the capacity to see the difference. That is not personal, it's a fact.

Second, Bush added to the national debt way too much, but it wasn't trillions. That has come from Obama and the Democrats. The TARP was awful and Bush shouldn't have done it. The Democrats were, however, the ones actively campaigning for that piece of garbage. Reid and Pelosi were all over the Tarp, so I'm guessing you were to so why are you mad at Bush over it?

Also Rusty, The President just signs the bills, the Democrat congress wrote the bill and ensured it passed. Bush should have vetoed it. You man is the one pushing Trillions. Bush might have been bad, but at least his excesses were sustainable. Obama, especially if he gets his Healthcare , will drive us into the ground. I know you never bothered to follow the links. You just spew your crap.

So yeah, if you aren't worried about what the CBO Director said, then I will tell you you don't care about this country despite your protestations otherwise.

Liberalism is all about making the US just another shit hole country. That way, everyone will like us. Well, you got a President and a Congress willing to push us over the edge into third world status. We should be loved by all very soon. You won't have a pot to piss in, but we'll be liked.

VW

Scott

All due respect - and VW, I hope you know that that's not just empty rhetoric - someone who is "liberal" believes in "ideals of individual (especially economic freedom), [and] greater individual participation in government." That's from Merriam-Webster, the (political) definition of a noun that dates from the 14th century. The more modern definition of the word "liberalism" (from 1819) is "a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties."

Maybe some in Washington would like to treat "liberalism" as a pejorative, but if we go by what the word *actually means*, it seems to me that turning the U.S. into a "shit hole country" is rather outside the bounds of Liberalism. Sometimes, though, that's tough to remember when the Sunday-morning talking heads treat BOTH "Liberal" and "Conservative" as being synonymous with "jerk-off."

Violence Worker

Scott, you are correct. I said as much back on my Independence Day Post. Our founders were true liberals. Unfortunately today, the liberals are not true liberals. This is a case of the language changing over the years. Today's liberals believe that more government involvement in our lives is better and I say that belief is the very antithesis of classic liberalism and the concepts of liberty and freedom.

VW

Rusty

I can guarantee you that I can tell the difference between racism and empathy better than Jeff Sessions. Anyway, I don't believe she's a racist. She's explained her comment and certainly nothing in her judicial record gives any indication that she's a racist.

I do worry about the debt. I've been worried about it for a lot longer than you apparently. However, I believe this president when he says that the health care bill will be revenue neutral. I can see why, after the last 16 years you wouldn't want to believe anything that a president says, but I'm going to give him a chance. Like it or not, he's your president. And you saying that I must hate this country just because I support Obama's policies is like me saying you must be a racist just because you don't. It's completely twisted logic. And I can see that, why can't you?

Health care is a major issue in this country. Millions go without insurance which ultimately costs those of us who do thousands each year. The rising costs are crushing individual, small businesses and major industries alike. Something needs to be done. Republicans had there chance. They controlled all three branches of the government and there only response was "rub some dirt in it ans walk it off." In the mean time we've slipped to 37 in the WHO's ranking of health care systems. We're 24th in life expectancy, but 2nd in health care expenditure as a % of GDP. Yet you and your fellow conservatives keep saying "we're #1". Well, if you're willing to sit by and watch us slip into the realm of third world countries just to protect billion dollar bonuses for HMO execs, then you sir are the unamerican one among us.

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