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Rusty

So, this is straight out of the "I want it both ways" department. You want your supreme court judges to be non-political, but you want Sotomayor to jump right in the middle of political bickering. And when she does you can say "AHA! Told you she's a political animal and not a non-partisan!"

I agree with you that Ricci shouldn't be demonized, and I'll even forgive you for overlooking the fact that Republicans do this all the time (brilliantly), but it's simply not her place to chime in.

But let's go with your standard then... Clarence Thomas would have to step down for not having the judicial temperament to sit as a judge for never having condemned all the dirt that was dug up about Anita Hill (by people like David Brock, back when he was a conservative hack). I'll expect a post from you demanding his resignation any moment now.

Violence Worker

Rusty, there's a big difference between Ricci and Hill. Hill was accusing Thomas of a serious offense. Perhaps not a crime, but serious misconduct none the less. She was making accusations. Ricci was just some poor guy who happened to get her as a judge. He is not accusing her of misconduct. I realize the difference may be hard for you to understand. I stand by my statement, so yeah, don't expect the post.

VW

Rusty

Ricci might not of been accusing Sotomayor of a serious offence (all the more reason she shouldn't have to chime in) but he is accusing public officials of serious offenses. If what you're saying is the by accusing an public official you make yourself a target, then Ricci is a fair target. And, just to be clear, Hill didn't bring her accusations public. She pressed no charges. She was interviewed by the FBI and her testimony was leaked. She didn't choose to be in the public eye.

But just so I'm clear for the future - you're saying that it's ok to defame someone's character for political reasons if that person says they were wronged by someone. Even if they didn't make that accusation public (on their own accord.)

Rusty

I apologize for the horrible grammar and syntax in my previous post. Usually I proofread before I post.

Violence Worker

Rusty, spare me your self righteous umbrage. Ricci and Hill are two completely different cases.

Frankly, you act like liberals are pure and holy and Conservatives are evil demons who pick on you pour wittle wiberals all day long, WAAAHHH!!!! Stop it because I'm here to tell you, when it comes to the so-called "politics of persona destruction" no one does it better than the left.

The point is, it's wrong to go after Ricci. It should be against the law for a private group to do that - especially one name "people for the American Way" Sounds more like People for the Soviet Way to me. What happened more than 20 years ago happened. To use whatever wrong you perceive happened over 20 years ago to justify bad behavior today is juvenile.

VW

Rusty

These are not tow completely different cases. They were both private citizens, who acted as such, got caught up in a political situation against their will and were personally assaulted for it.

I'm not justifying anyting. You might want to reread my post where I said it was wrong to go after Ricci. And if anyone is whining, it's you. Sotomayor isn't fit to be a judge because she won't comment on political tactics, but Thomas is fit even though he did the same thing? I'm just asking to you have the same standards, that's all. I don't think Thomas should have commented on Hill's treatment and I don't think Sotomayor should comment. I'm being consistent. And yes, my moral values hold for longer than a 20 year period. Obviously yours have a shorter shelf life.

I'm agreeing with you that Ricci shouldn't be a target of political and personal attacks. I disagree with you that Sotomayor should comment. I'm just asking that you hold all of the supreme court judges to the same standard and not just the ones you don't like.

Both liberals and conservatives are experts at the politics of persona destruction. Just look what his own party did to McCain in the primaries against Bush. The Dems are just as bad. I can admit that. Can you?

Can you honestly show anywhere in any of my posts where I've said that liberals or democrats are pure and holy or anything close? Or is this your own personal brand of persona destruction?

Rusty

Yeah, that's what I figured. Nothin'

Violence Worker

Something about arguing with a fool

VW

Rusty

More name calling. Well, you've got that mastered. Now shoot for intellectual integrity.

Rusty

Oh, wait, I know the one you're were talking about:

"Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt"?

Too late, you started this blog.

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