Hypocrisy, Thy Name Is Democrat!

UPDATE:  A statement From Senator Obama:

"People's families are off limits," he said. "People's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. "

"I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories," he added. "That shouldn't be a topic in our politics."

Will the Obamunists listen to their leader?

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Back a couple of months ago, Obama was indignant about anyone attacking his wife or his children.  At the time, I felt if his wife was campaigning, she was fair game for some criticism, but certainly his kids are completely hands off. 

The news media, being the good little Obamatons that they are, dutifly complied as they should.

First, came a liberal diarist sleaze-monger over at the Daily Manure Pile Kos with the allegation that Trig Palin is Governor Palin's grandson.  It was tawdry at best and sleaze-filled at worst.  This was worse than National Enquirer stuff.  At least the NE had the goods on Johnh Edwards. (We knew that because he didn't sue!) This was based on nothing more than some hate-filled liberal interpreting some press photos that were not exactly the best of quality.

Now comes the news this morning that Palin's daughter Bristol is five months pregnant.  The announcement was made - in part - to circumvent the ugliness the left was spewing from the lowest holes they could dig. 

Of course now comes the hate rhetoric once again.  To write this, I decided to plumb the depths of liberal, hate and sleaze depravity and check out the Democratic Undergound.  (I won't link - go find it for yourselves if you are that desperate.)  The denizens of that filth-laden rat hole didn't dissapoint.  They started benignly enough with the usually cracks about religion.  Not content to leave it at that, they grabbed steam shovels and started digging.  From there, they guessed at how many young men might wonder if they were the father (She must be a slut) to the lowest of the low.  Yes dear readers, they are accusing the soon to be grandfather to also be the father.

It's doubtful that the MSM will drill to that level, but you can bet privacy concerns for the Republican will be torn away.  It's double standard as we all know.    The left will milk this for all it's worth. 

Teen pregnancy happens in the best of families - liberal and conservative.  It's happened in ours.  It isn't the first prominent political to have to deal with a teen pregnancy.  Sex is blasted at us 24/7.  It's greets us at us at every turn.  The lessons we try and teach our children are often offset by the louder messages of peer pressure, the internet and the media.  It's rare the parent that can compete.

This is a chance for the liberals and the MSM to try and embarrass the Palins and us.  Let them have their fun for the day and move on to the greater debate.

VW

Comments

[e4bannan]

"Our beautiful daughter Bristol came to us with news that as parents we knew would make her grow up faster than we had ever planned. We're proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents. As Bristol faces the responsibilities of adulthood, she knows she has our unconditional love and support."--Sarah Palin

This lady is class personified. Not only does she talk the talk, she walks the walk. Too bad Obama would offer Bristol a knife and a vacuum to avoid this "punishment".

[Robert W. (Vancouver, BC)]

Finally a voice of reason about this issue in the blogosphere. Do a Google Blog Search of "Palin" and "hypocrisy" and you read some pretty hateful stuff. To each of our liberal friends I wrote some variation of this:

Yes, there's definitely some hypocrisy here but you need to get a mirror to see it.

Put yourself in Sarah Palin's shoes. You strongly advocate abstinence to your children. One of your daughters chooses to not listen to you and gets pregnant. What do you then? If you're true to your (Palin's) convictions then you would encourage her to have the baby. And that's what she's doing and getting married to the father as well.

As for the hypocrisy I mentioned earlier, I trust you're aware that Barack Obama was born to an 18 year-old mother who was not married to the father at the time.

Final question: You seem to have no hesitation to delve into the sex life of Sarah Palin's daughter. Should we thus assume that you're advocating open attacks into Barack & Michele's two adorable daughters? Sure sounds like. That's pretty sick.

[Violence Worker]

You misunderstand disgust for those who do attack families as advocating the practice on the Democrats.

Nope, not now, not ever. Perhaps I didn't make that clear enough, but I would probably be even more upset at Conservatives who did such a cowardly thing.

Thanks for reading and commenting.

VW

[kat]

Does no one see a problem with this 17 YEAR OLD CHILD GETTING MARRIED!!!!!!!! And this has worked how many time in the past?? I can't believe no one can see a problem with this!!!! Everyone sees it as a good idea!!! I'm sorry but making your BABY get married is kinda gross. I think God will forgive if the little girl doesn't marry the father. The other thing is VW, have you ever read what right wing nut jobs have said in the past. Republicans are not all polite and pretty, they are vicious.
Families should be off limits and if I am not mistaken Obama said both of the families, meaning McCain's and his, should be off limits both the wives and the children. I remember when he said it. It's more then what McCain has done. Obama, you have to admit ONCE IN YOUR LIFE, was quite the gentlemen about the Palin thing. He could have said a lot of stuff about it. Even some republicans are saying stuff like," what else is she hiding"?? Next time you are in town I'm going to take you to see a Hypnotherapist to see if there are any regressive memories of being brain washed into thinking the way you do while you were in the military. It's the only explanation I can think of!!! LOL

[aribert_heim]

I'll say it once again - Palin is a DISASTROUS choice for veep.

Who knows how many more skeletons are in her closet?

I don't give two hoots about the teenage pregnancy, unprotected premarital sex, shotgun weddings etc etc.- WINNING IN NOVEMBER is the important thing, people!!!

The McCain crew CAN NOT have known about this beforehand - it is too much of a strategic liability to have allowed her to run for VP - it risks alienating the hardcore evangelicals, to whom premarital sex is one of THE issues. Therefore, she wasn't vetted properly. Bad choice!!!

[Violence Worker]

Kat, what happens is a family matter. It doesn't matter if I think she's too young (and I do) and it doesn't matter what you think. It's their family.

And I will not have anything to do with anyone who thinks that a candidate's children are fair game.

Ari - They knew.

VW

[aribert_heim]

kat said: "Does no one see a problem with this 17 YEAR OLD CHILD GETTING MARRIED!!!!!!!!"

the wedding (or statement that a wedding will take place in the future) is simply a political damage control mechanism to placate evangelicals. They simply could not have gotten away with NOT saying that a wedding was to occur as a result of the pregnancy. A wedding is seen to negate the pre-marital sex that took place.

The wedding may or may not eventually take place, it was the statement that a wedding is intended that was important.

[BobF]

Back in the mid 70's my younger sister got pregnant while still in high school. She decided to keep the baby and marry the father. Everyone, except my mother and his mother tried to talk them out of it. Catholic Charities (we were catholic at that time) told them not to marry but to give the baby to them for adoption. As her older brother, I was sure the marriage wouldn't work. But it did. Over 30 years later and with three children, they're doing fantastic.

It doesn't work all the time but with the support of family, it can and it will.

[BobF]

And, on Obama. I applaud him for what he said. He has daughters and knows full well this could be on of his daughters in the future. I only hope he's a man of his word and fires any campaign worker who slanders the Palin's over this.

[kat]

I hope to God it is a politically motivated damage control statement. Cuz, ewe!
This is where I have to say that I work with kids between the ages of 12 and 22. I go on the streets and even sometimes into the schools, brandish dildos and teach safer sex practices. At the same time I show VERY disgusting pictures of sexually transmitted illnesses and teach that abstinence is always best and that the safest sex is at the tips of your fingers or in the palms of your hands. I also help run classes on body image and body respect. I TRULY believe that you can teach abstinence WHILE teaching kids to protect themselves. Especially in these little towns where there is little to do but get drunk, get high, and get pregnant. We see a LOT of underage kids pregnant up north. I'm talking A LOT!!! We have a lot of other programs and I mostly work with transient or at risk kids but sex ed while teaching abstinence works!! But if all else fails because we live in this wonderful country of ours there are other options. Thank you for listening to my public service announcement!!

[John Hampton]

Of course Obama says the right thing concerning this news. He hasn't much choice considering how he loudly he protested when unflattering things were said about his wife. But his inner circle of supporters will do everything possible to exploit this information in an effort to paint an ugly picture of Governor Palin's family picture.

After reading many of the terrible things so many people have to say about the young woman's pregnancy, including the nasty speculation and doubt being cast upon Governor Palin's family values, I wonder how much more hypocritical and deceitful these misguided buzzards can be.

As Robert W. from Vancouver pointed out in his comment, it's obvious that a lot of people have either forgotten or are simply ignorant of the fact that Ann Dunham, mother of Barack Hussein Obama, who was such an influence in shaping his life and such a dominant figure in his formative years, was only an eighteen-year old first-year college student and not married to Barack's daddy when she got herself pregnant. He was born about six months after they were married. So what does that make her?

Is this really the best they could come up with in their scramble to find some dirt on Governor Palin? They'll be eating dirt before this over and perhaps a little crow.

[WMD_Maker]

"17 YEAR OLD CHILD GETTING MARRIED!!!!!!!! And this has worked how many time in the past?? "

Actually up untill the 60s it worked VERY WELL. Even in the 60s it was not unusaull for people to be married at 17 or 18 right out of high school. The divorce rate was low because marraige MEANT SOMETHING besides a percieved way to get a consistant piece of ass. After the 60s "free love"
the 70s "me" the 80s "not you" the divorce rate sky rocketed the teen pregnancy rate skyrocketed and so did the number on govt assistance. coincidence?

[Cindy]

Okay I am going to add my 2 cents about this pregnancy. She should have come out and said. We are very disappointed and hurt by our daughters choice in not practicing abstinence and becoming pregnant, however we love her and stand behind her whether she choses to keep the child or give it up for adoption. I for one would not have been proud had Kat made me a grandmother when she was 17. I would have stood behind her, but I would have let her and everyone else know how hurt and disapointed I was. I am appalled that we have rampant teenage pregnancy in this country and the future Vice President of this country is proud that her teenage daughter is going to make her a grandmother. I love my daughter with all my heart and she knows how much I do love her, but that would have broken my heart not lessened my love for her nor made me proud.

[Rebecca]

I don't have a daughter of childbearing age YET, but if one of my children does wind up pregnant in their teens, the last thing I would do would go around expressing my disappointment to the world. What happened, happened and it's time to deal with it and support her.
Bristol is going to have a hard enough time as it is, without her mother publicly shaming her. Ready or not, the baby is coming. It's too late for disappointment, shame, and hurt. None of that is going to help.
I think Sarah Palin is handling it remarkably well.

[John Hampton]

No, Cindy. I disagree. That is not what Governor Palin should have said to millions of people regarding her daughter's pregnancy. Bristol Palin is her daughter - a young woman who is facing the prospect and reality of becoming a mother somewhat sooner than expected and in less than desirable circumstances . If Governor Palin was to publicly announce to America how disappointed and hurt she is by the choices her daughter has made, I doubt that it will help Bristol. I have no doubt that Governor Palin and her husband are very aware of how this will impact Bristol's life. Surely they know that they shouldn't do or say something which might affect their daughter in a negative way, especially now that the entire family is in the spotlight and being so closely scrutinized by leering political ghouls and smugly righteous dimwitted democrats.

The resulting backlash created by these hypocrites to besmirch and condemn this young lady does not help her become a parent as she moves into an adult parenting role. Their intention is nothing more than political chicanery. They obviously don't care about how it affects Bristol Palin.

Bristol needs feel positive about what she and the baby's father can do for their child. They need to be able to focus on improving themselves in order to improve their chances of being good parents for their child. They don't need to be guilt-ridden and publicly shamed because of a mistake they made in timing, especially since they intend to make it right the best way that they can. They plan to be married. Bristol apparently is not planning to become an unwed teenage mother. Unwed teenage mothers are real problems in this country, not teenage mothers with husbands and good parenting skills.
I'm certain that Governor Palin and her huband said the right things to their daughter and continue to do so. That is their private family affair. What Governor Palin said to the nation regarding this news was appropriate.

[Violence Worker]

Cindy: I don't pretend to speak for Governor Palin, but here is the deal. There is an old management principle for dealing with people. Praise in public, admonish in private. This a family deal and I'm sure there's been some very real heartache over this.

I've been through this with a pregnant 17-year-old. It does break your heart and yeah,, you do tell them you are disappointed, but publicly, you put a different face on it. You don't damn your kid to the world!

And one other point, you don't stop loving her and you love the baby when it comes.

Right on Rebecca! You go girl - and all of your girls!

VW

[kat]

Yes, VW, I'm sure being a married teenage mother with this other child is gonna make it all right! The reason It was ok back in the 50's and 60' WMD- maker is not the you and me philosophy as you put it but because back then we did not coddle our children as much as we do know. Lets face it our babies are babies much longer now. We give them everything they want. We barely discipline them. Child labor laws were still starting to come into greater affect. people still dropped out of school early to get jobs. Farm kids hardly went to school after the 8th grade. After the 60's it was all those kids who got married young that got divorced in the 70's and 80's!!

[Violence Worker]

Kat, I never said that, but then again, You don't know and neither do I. They might get married and live happily ever after. There is no guarantees. I got married at 26 and it didn't work out. Was I too young or too old?

VW

[Cindy]

Yeah I would have told her and other people how disappointed I was with her, but then she knew that and told me once that the reason she never did anything like that was because she could never stand to see the hurt and disappointment in my eyes. And I still say I would never stand on the world stage and tell everyone I was proud my 17 year old daughter was making me a grandparent out of wedlock. PERIOD. And my daughter will back me up on that on. That is not the example I want for my granddaughter. And I would do say the same to her. I would tell her and anyone else that I was disappointed in her choice not to practice safe sex and have a child at 17, but that I loved her and would do all I could to help her. I would in no way make anyone think that I approved of a situation like that in anyway. And my daughter had a child out of wedlock. She, however was an adult. Did I approve of her choice. No. Did she know that? Yes. Did other people know that? Yes. I love my daughter and am very proud of the woman she has become and I would and did say things like that to her and about her and she is a beautiful, proud, intelligent, capable woman today. It in no way warped her. I will say them to my granddaughter as well. Because I have let them know that certain things are just no acceptable and let them know certain things are. And one of them is teenage pregnancy. I will not put any pretty spin on it. You can put any pretty spin on it you want. It is unacceptable and I would never say I was proud to be the grandparent of a teenage unwed mother.

[kat]

Amen mommy!!!!! But then that's why there are condoms, that's why you teach kids about safer sex while teaching them about abstinence. That's why there is options out there and for god sakes that is not a reason to get married!!!

[Rebecca]

Although I wasn't a teenager, as a young adult I faced an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy. The situation was hardly desirable, and I was absolutely devastated. After a few weeks of heavy internal debate, I made the choice to continue the pregnancy. I gathered up all my nerve, and told my parents, bracing myself for the disappointment, hurt, and anger that was sure to come my way.
To my surprise, not a single hurtful or disappointed word came my way. Instead I received love, support, hugs, and a bunch of congratulations. And it was in that moment that I finally felt at peace with the pregnancy, that my life wasn't over, and I hadn't shamed the family for life.
Had my family been horrified, and taken out a full page ad in the NY Times expressing their disappointment, I probably would have had an abortion, to be honest. Or at least suffered from some serious depression & PPD.
Instead, I have a gorgeous 2 year old daughter with an extended family that loves her to pieces, and no regrets whatsoever.
Hopefully, Bristol is stronger than I am. I can't imagine being in her shoes and facing the public scorn she's going through. I feel just awful for her.

[Layla]

I wrote on this too and concur with you. The kids should be off limits but the dems are such hypocrites it is ridiculous! I am thinking anyone voting for a dem is brain dead - period!

[Violence Worker]

The bottom line is simply this, We can project our circumstances and experience all we want, but we are not that family. We don't know if contraceptives were discussed or even used. No artificial birth control method is entirely 100% reliable. That means an oopsie can occur and sometimes does. Hell, it's not unheard of for a vasectomy to undo.

Then there is my case. our daughter and the baby's father were going to get married so they decided to have the baby, completely against everything her mother and I taught her. They purposefully stopped using condoms. So they didn't get married. Probably better for them, but we don't know the circumstances here. Odds are it will be a lot tougher than if they'd waited, but marrying later is no guarantee either. Like I said, I was 26.

Still, this has absolutely nothing to do with Governor Palin's candidacy for Vice President.

When it happened to our family, it wasn't my employer's business. It didn't effect my job performance.

Bottom Line- If they get married or not, it's none of our business!

VW

[Cindy]

My daughter knows I love her and called me the moment she knew she was pregnant. She was an adult when she became pregnant with her oldest and unmarried. It did not nor has it ever lessened my love for her. She was an adult and well able to care for her child.

She now has two beautiful children and they are the lights of my life. I have supported her every step of her life in every decision she has made.

If she would have been a teenager she would have known my disappointment and hurt and I say again that is why she did not have a child while still a teenager. And for that I am VERY, VERY PROUD of my daughter. And if that is what it took to deter her from becoming pregnant at that age, then I say more power to me. I would do it all over again. My love for her then would not have lessened. I would have stood behind her and supported her in whatever decision she made after she became pregnant, but I would in no way let her think I was happy in anyway. I am not speaking of adult unmarried pregnancy here. I am talking about teenage pregnancy. Big difference.

I am not scorning her. Mistakes happen and I would never scorn her. However, I disagree with the whole proud thing. I never even said I would scorn anyone. And I don't feel sorry for her. It was her choice and she must now live with it.
And since I'm at my moms house, thank you very much, I had LOTS OF SUPPORT!!!!! But, let me tell you if I would have come home at 17 KNOCKED UP she would have bi!#hed me out from one side of the house to the other AND then given me all the love and support I needed. I wouldn't feel destroyed. I wouldn't have needed mental help I was strong enough. And to clarify TJ was an OH MY GOD OOOOOOPSSS!!!!!!! I was scared SH##less!!!!! As it was she called me all kinds of stupid bitched me out then held me tight while I cried so shove it!!!!!!

[John Hampton]

Amazing how far this discussion has departed from the original point VW was making concerning this issue.

It's just appalling how all of this has developed. First, there was the criticism of Governor Palin for having a baby at her age. Then she was criticized for not having an abortion when she knew the child would have Down's Syndrome. Next, it was not her child but her daughter's. Now, Governor Palin's stature and qualifications are being diminished because her daughter is pregnant and plans to get married.

Whew...what a feeding frenzy. The buzzards and hyenas carrying out this inquisition went from wanting to execute a child with a disability to persecuting a seventeen-year old girl for having sex and getting pregnant. I get it. This must be the kind of change they're all talking about.