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Kelly

Great story. It's obviously an issue that you struggled with. I'm an athiest so I don't have to deal with the bible telling me to forgive. It is a difficult issue however and one I am not good at. I tend to hold a grudge and would not be able to forgive this type of crime - I would not be able to trust him. Ever. These molesters are not ever cured - some may learn to manage their desires - but I don't want myself or my kid to be around when they fall off the wagon. I admire that you and your church were able to walk the walk - so few do.

BobF

At the moment I can only think of one verse of scripture which comes to mind.

Romans 16:17 - Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them

canuckistani

Wow, tough call. I guess he just has to be monitored like you and the church did.

MOGS

In my line of work we have two sayings:

1) In God we trust, all others we monitor

2) Trust, but verify

Perhaps "forgive, but never forget" is the right call?

Violence Worker

This is perhaps the hardest thing. If a convicted murderer showed up at the church door, no one would be too worried. After all, he is there seeking forgivenesss, right. Most murderers are not serial killers and likely not to reoffend.

MOGS, I thought of the exact same thing as I wrote that piece. I certainly don't have a better answer.

Bob, It's one thing to shun the sin, but are we not taught to love the sinner?

VW

BobF

VW...I've been taught that in church for years, hate the sin but love the sinner, and I agree. But to what point do we stop loving and start hating?

Mal 1:2 - I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,

Rom 9:13 - As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

I think Mogs has the best point. But, we have to remember, if this "reformed" molester ever gets hold of another child, the MSM will crucify your church and its ministers for allowing a known molester in your midsts. They'll also do the same if you don't let him in, so your between a rock and a hard spot.

MOGS

It all comes down to this:

What do we truly believe about redemption, and trust? Both are hard to earn, and harder to keep...

But never, ever take your eye off him.

Maureen

Hate the sin, but love the sinner... oh, REALLY?!? Yes, a new commandment we are given, to love one another, BUT... how do you reconcile doing THAT with, say, Psalm 5:5, where David tells us that God actually hates "all doers of iniquity"? In 1 Cor 5:9, it is crystal clear: we are NOT to associate with "sexually immoral people."

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