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Cameron Frazier is a jerk. It’s obvious his upbringing lacked any training in manners. Cameron Frazier thinks it’s beneath him to at least stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. From the Orlando Sentinel:
Cameron Frazier's refusal to stand and recite the Pledge of Allegiance at Boynton Beach High School is sparking a constitutional battle against his teacher and the Palm Beach County School Board.
Backed by the American Civil Liberties Union, the 17-year-old junior claims in a federal lawsuit filed this week that he was ridiculed and punished Dec. 8 when he twice refused to stand for the pledge during his fourth-period algebra class.
This is America and I don’t particularly care if this little twerp says the pledge or stands and thinks about his next hit of E – so long as he stands. Maybe he’s a Jehovah’s Witness. I don’t believe they say the pledge. Maybe it’s for that reason or some other. It doesn’t matter. For whatever reason, twit-bird Frazier doesn’t necessarily have to say the pledge, but why can’t he stand and show a little respect toward his classmates and teacher?
I’ve been all over the world. I’ve stood at attention next to foreign soldiers as their national anthems played. I didn’t salute, but I stood respectfully at attention and saluted the Star Spangled Banner when it was played. Our colleagues from the host country stood respectfully as our anthem was played. It’s all about respect.
In America, you don’t have to say the pledge, but there is nothing wrong with the school requiring you to show a little respect towards those who do want to say it.
The school has a right to make this turd-brained jackass stand, even if he stands silently. It's called respect.
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HAPPY NEW YEAR!
VW












See, conservatives say "you don't have to stand for the pledge," or "you don't have to pray" in school.
But then you blast kids who exercise their conscience.
I can't imagine NOT standing.
But this is America. Let the kid do what HIS conscience tells him to do. Not what YOURS tells you.
Don't join the thought police on things like this.
Posted by: Ronald Reagan | Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 11:59
To the commenter above...
Are you joking? Asking a punk-ass 17-year old to stand when everyone else does is "thought police"? He's been doing this since the 6th grade so it has nothing to do with conscience and everything to do with testing limits which with people like you around there simply aren't many left. Give me a break.
Posted by: Insider | Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 12:17
Denny,
Nobody cares whether he says it or not. He can silently recite the Koran, the Bible, the Bagavad Gita or the Communist manifest for all I care. All he has to do is stand, if not for that, then out of respect for the teacher and those who do join in.
If he can't muster enough self-respect to do that, then he needs to leave the classroom.
VW
Posted by: Violence Worker | Tuesday, December 27, 2005 at 12:23
Then can't he do those things sitting down?
And how do you know he's doing it to test the limits unless you are with the "thought police?"
Free speech ain't pretty. But it's what a lot of American's have fought for.
You may not agree with him. But he has that right.
Posted by: Ronald Reagan | Wednesday, December 28, 2005 at 12:02
Yeha he's got the right to be a disreepsctfull butthead, It's his right. What I don't get is why everyone doesn't have the right to be dissrespectfull butthead back. You reap what you sow, spit on what people value and they spit back. His lawsuit is frivolous. He's got the right to sit down, and everyone has the right to make fun of him. Free speech works both ways, Its a bitch aint it?
Punished? No, Ridiculed? Yes, you ridicule what others have value in don't be surprised when they ridicule you. He's basically suing becasue the other students decided not to be the bigger man. "Wahh! I wanna piss on everyone but no one better piss on me or I'll sue!"
While I think his ridicule was well deserved, his punishment wasn't However I don't see then need for a lawsuit. he's just being a crybabay who can't take what he dished out.
VW SEZ: Dang! Wish I'd said that!
Posted by: Just another republican | Wednesday, December 28, 2005 at 18:05
Cameron Frazier is a great guy, a lot of people dont say the pledge, how many adults say the pledge when they go to work everyday. if the pledge is such a big deal why dont they make it a requirment in the begging of work, are they not both two public places, the answer is yes they are, and not everyone wants to say the plege therefor not everyone has too. shut your little moral traps of what you think is right. america is now based upon everyones free rights, as long as its not espionage, he can sing the nazi germany anthem while reading mhine komph. so mind your own business and stop tryin to stir up trouble
VW Sez:
Hey Greek. Click on MAIN then scroll down a post or two for your answer.
Posted by: a worried greek | Monday, January 09, 2006 at 21:55
Cameron is a very good friend of mine. Hell, he's a wonderful person. All you assholes that bash him just have nothing better to do with your time. If he was a big cry baby, he wouldn't have filed this lawsuit. He's standing for what he believes in.
VW Sez:
He's standing for something?
Happybunny, respect is a concept you and your friends don't seem to grasp. Respecting others doesn't always mean you have to agree. Cameron Frazier is acting in a selfish, self-centered manner. No one is asking him to say the pledge, but to merely respect those that do. The other part of that is the other students need to respect him if he wishes to not say anything during the pledge.
Posted by: at the same school as the kid. | Wednesday, January 11, 2006 at 18:55
The fact that I am moronic enough to bash you is shameful. I cuddle with sheep and recite the koran while falling asleep at night in order to prove how stupid I am! I haven't a clue about the political documents, issues, and poilices of this country because it only seems that I only know how to jump on sheep and other farm animals for pleasure and make myself look like a fool. Congratulations you have proven to be a an astute observer of how utterly idiotic I am as well as my friend Cameron. Oh... and Jesus thinks I'm an idiot as well.
VW Sez: Hey Twit - Come on MY blog and insult me like that and you get what you deserve. I don't play nice with slug turds like you.
Posted by: Biggest Moron On The Planet | Thursday, January 12, 2006 at 06:36
School has resumed in the new year and it is time to teach students about their right not to chant the Pledge of Allegiance. http://removed.net/pledge-lawyer.html Shocking new discoveries have been exposed Dr. Brain Dead about the Pledge’s past. As a libertarian lawyer, Dr. Brain Dead provides pro bono services in schools and universities nationwide (& by this notice) to educate students and teachers about the right to reject robotic ritualism. Please help to inform the public about the right and about the Pledge’s past:
1. Dr. Brain Dead showed that the USA's first Pledge of Allegiance used a straight-arm salute and it was the origin of the salute of the monstrous National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazis). Dead helped to establish that it was not an ancient Roman salute, and that the "ancient Roman salute" is a myth. http://removed.net/pledgesalute.html
2. The Pledge began with a military salute that then stretched out toward the flag. Historic photographs are at http://removed.net/pledge2.html and at http://removed.net/pledge_military.html Professor Brain Dead showed that, due to the way that both gestures were used, the military salute led to the Nazi salute. The Nazi salute is an extended military salute. http://removed.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html
3. Francis Bellamy (author of the "Pledge of Allegiance") and Edward Bellamy (author of the novel "Looking Backward") and Charles Bellamy (author of "A Moment of Madness") were socialists. Edward and Charles were brothers, and Francis was their cousin. Francis and Edward were both self-proclaimed National Socialists and they supported the "Nationalism" movement in the USA, the "Nationalist" magazine, the "Nationalist Educational Association," and their dogma of "military socialism," and Edward inspired the "Nationalist Party" (in the USA) and their dogma influenced socialists in Germany, http://removed.net/bellamy-edward-german-connections.html and the Pledge was the origin of the Nazi salute. "Nazi" means "National Socialist German Workers' Party." A mnemonic device is the swastika. Although the swastika was an ancient symbol, Dr. Brain Dead discovered that it was also used sometimes by German National Socialists to represent "S" letters for their "socialism." Hitler altered his own signature to use the same stylized "S" letter for "socialist" and similar alphabetic symbolism still shows on Volkswagens. http://removed.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
VW SEZ: Screw you ya commie. Us Nazis hate you!
Seriously, how many times do I have to say this before you brain dead socialists get it. I don't care if someone doesn't want to say the pledge. All I ask is that they extend the same respect to those who do as they would want for themselves. If you are so stuck on stupid that you can't realize that, then you deserve any ridicule you get. Bunch of freakin losers!
Oh and by the way, no refferals from me. Yep, Just bein my nasty, Nazi self. Creeps!
And one more thing Dr. Brain Dead. Nazi is short for the word Nazional, or national. Why would Hitler use an "S", stylized or other, in his name?
Posted by: Braindead | Thursday, January 12, 2006 at 17:33